Synopsis: Hal, John, Guy and Kyle are in Coast City with Ganthet and Sayd who say that they can't fight with them and explain that the four of them are keystones of the multiverse and that they'll be integral in stopping the Darkest Night prophecy. :o
Ganthet goes on to explain that there other other emotions with power and colours than willpower and green. :o Green is the most central and balanced colour but there's also yellow (fear), violet (love), red (hate), indigo (compassion), orange (greed) and blue (hope). :D And that soon there will be 7 corps but they will all be at war with each other which will leave the universe open for the Blackest Night. :o
Ganthet and Sayd then leave to do their part to prevent the Blackest Night while the four Earth lanterns see Sinestro and his Corps heading their way. Hal goes back home with Kyle and tells his brother and his family to leave Coast City and he also tells the rest of Coast City to as well. However, nobody leaves, and they shine green light out of their window to show support for Hal :D
Meanwhile, in New York, John and Guy arrive to help the rest of the GL Corps but the Anti-Monitor is kicking everybody's butts and trying to turn all matter into anti-matter (again).
The "lost Lanterns" show up in Coast City to help Hal fight Sinestro saying that while they dun like him, he saved them on Qward and they want to help him protect his city :]
Back in New York, Guy falls sick with the Sinestro Corps member who is a virus. :o The Guardians show up and blast the Anti-Matter with their Guardian powers :D
As the Green Lanterns helping Hal rip thru the Sinestro Corps, causing Amon Sur to run in fear, Sinestro acts pleased and reveals that it was his plan to make the Guardians allow lethal force so that finally the GL Corps will be feared and be able to enforce law throughout the galaxy. :o
The Guardians have trouble fighting the Anti-Monitor whose very touch burns them. :o Guy gets the idea to use Sinestro's Warworld power battery as a bomb to kill the Anti-Monitor :D
Hal and Kyle lose the charge in their rings as Sinestro uses the Manhunters to suck their powers. They run as Sinestro pursues :\
Guy and John rope Warworld and send it hurtling down next to the Anti-Monitor. :o The rest of the Lanterns encase Superboy Prime, the Anti Monitor and Cyborg Superman in a giant bubble as Warworld detonates :O Cyborg Superman thanks the Lanterns for finally killing him :D
The death of Cyborg Superman causes the Manhunters to short circuit and Hal uses one of their deactivated skulls to absorb Sinestro's ring power. :o Now that everybody's depowered, Hal and Kyle have a final fight with Sinestro :D
However the Anti-Monitor is not completely dead and altho badly injured tries to kill more heroes! But then Superboy Prime grabs him and flings him away from Earth calling him weak and (presumably) in revenge for destroying Earth Prime. :D
SBP then goes crazy beating up heroes until one of the Guardians sacrifices his life to destroy him :O Guy is injected with a smallpox virus that's also a Green Lantern and he kills off the Sinestro virus :D
Hal and Kyle defeat Sinestro and arrest him :)
In the aftermath, the Lanterns help rebuild Earth while ppl flock to Coast City as it was the one city where the inhabitants didn't try to flee and now has a new name: The City Without Fear". :]
Superboy Prime wakes up, having not been killed, and sees the Multiverse :O
Elsewhere, Sayd and Ganthet embrace each other and create the first Blue ring of hope :D
The Manhunters find Cyborg Superman and repair him causing him to cry :(
The Corpse of the Anti-Monitor lands on a planet where a mysterious presence turns him into a giant Black Lantern and we get a glimpse of what the Darkest Night will be... Zombie Lanterns! :D Or at least people who are dead wielding black power rings. :o
Review: Yay! :DDDD That was goods :] Very goods :)
A little cheesey with the "everybody shining" green thing but I like those where ppl show their support for the heroes :) Cuz that's what I always say is so great about superheroes that they inspire hope in ppl, not just that they save ppl :D
I wonder why they still need the rule that they can kill tho. B/c honestly, real life cops wouldn't be allowed to kill if they didn't have to, like if they had something that put them on a completely seperate level as the bad guys. The Sinestro Corps has to be killed cuz that was war and they had no choice. But NORMALLY, they shouldn't have to, their rings should be enuf to contain the bad guys and bring them back. You can do everything ELSE to them but why kill? But then it's like a gun I guess now xD My point just is that outside of the Sinestro Corps (being their equal and opposite) most of the criminals they catch wouldn't need to be killed to be stopped. So the only reason to kill would be b/c the GL was too lazy to fight (kinda like shooting somebody as your first choice instead of trying other methods when you can).
Plus Sinestro is WRONG. A police officer's job is NOT to spread fear among the population. Altho that sometimes DOES happen, it is NOT what they do. Police officers catch criminals. They have guns to protect themselves and other ppl, not as an instrument of fear and control. They do not perform executions and when they kill it's not to deter crime. That's what capital punishment is supposed to do, NOT police officers.
So the more "logical" way to use death to deter crime would be for the Guardians to execute prisoners (not that I advocate capital punishment or am against it, but simply that's the way that death as deterrance would be used, NOT by allowing cops to just shoot everybody indiscriminately).
Ppl are afraid of the police b/c they're afraid of being CAUGHT and PUNISHED, not b/c they're afraid the cop will just shoot them in the face (tho yus that WOULD be scary, but also WRONG). Regardless of whether the cop has a gun they're afraid to be caught and the officer's job is to catch them, not to kill them.
I'm just saying that I dun think there's rly a need for lethal force now except in extreme circumstances like during WAR or against somebody that cannot be captured but only killed (but that's where I have a problem, cuz with the ring, there's rly nothing much that they shouldn't be able to subdue without killing). It WOULD be like a cop now with a gun if they were on the same even playing field, but they're not. If cops had some sort of device that was as versatile and powerful as the ring they wouldn't be allowed to carry guns b/c there'd be no point, and ultimately their job isn't to SCARE ppl, but to STOP ppl. It's why there's so much research into tasers and other non-lethal replacements for the gun.
However, they should have the ability to kill if ABSOLUTELY necessary, since there are prolly SOME threats out there, but that Sinestro seems to be like "kill ppl and scare criminals!" but that's not what cops do, that's what the justice system is supposed to do, punishment and deterance, the police officers just enforce the law and capture criminals. :)
I AM glad tho that Hal and John understand that they're just like a cop with a gun now and that it's not like they've suddenly become ebil or nething. XDDD
I wonder what the other 9 commandments are now? :O Mebbe they'll be opposite of OUR ten commandments? Since apparently they have "thou shalt kill" instead of not kill :O Are they allowed to steal and covet their neighbour's wives now? That should make Hal and Guy very happy XD
I feel so bad for Cyborg Superman!!!!!!!!! It was SOOOO touching when he thanked the Lanterns for finally ending his life! :(
However his "resurrection" made no sense to me. First off I thought with his death, the Manhunters were all disabled, why would they be around to reconstruct him? Secondly, that ISN'T how Cyborg Superman works! He's an energy being. THAT'S why he can't be killed and THAT'S why he hates life, b/c no matter what his consciousness survives. When Superman shattered him into a billion pieces he still survived. And he just EXISTS even without a full body and can transmit himself into things. He's basically just consciousness, that's why he's so tortured, not that nobody's powerful enuf to kill his body! So he shouldn't just awaken and be like "DAMMIT I WAS DEAD!" If it was just like that, he could fly into a supernova or black hole or something, and his body would be destroyed and nobody would be able to rebuild him. The point is that even if he did that his consciousness would still be alive and kicking and he'd hate and be tortured by every second of it! It's not about his body being deactivated (if it was, it's rly not hard for him to get himself deactivated and just stay like that), it's about his consciousness being completely obliterated and that can't happen. :\ He shouldn't even need to be rebuilt and wake up and cry, he should still be conscious. That's why life is such torture for him. :(
It's shocking that an explosion of that magnitude didn't vaporize his body and there will still lots to be rebuilt with. :O
I rly liked how desperate everything was and how things were wrapped up so nicely with the Sinestro virus being destroyed (yay smallpox! xD) and Coast City being restored to it's former glory :)
Stupid other cities tho! xD COWARDLY METROPOLIS! I can see Gothamites leaving tho, the whole point of that city is that it's citizens suck and are cowardly and badz with no hope xD But Metropolis? :\ Superman, get your city in LINE! You need Sinestro to teach you a few lessons about that! xD
It was very touching to see the Coast City ppls stay tho :D
I think depowering Hal and Kyle to fight Sinestro was great :D Is his race stronger than humans tho? It seems like EVERY race is (like in Star Trek xD) so that wouldn't surprise me, but if it is, that would make more sense to have him 2 on 1 the heroes :D Otherwise, it seems a little unfair. :\ I like to see heroes triumph over unfair odds, not the other way around! XDD But if Sinestro IS stronger than a human (or a considerably more skilled close combat fighter) it'd make sense that both Hal and Kyle would have to fight him :)
YAY GUY!!! It was great to see him come up with the way to defeat the Anti-Monitor AND help bring down Warworld to do it while he was infected :)
Superboy Prime "finishing off" the Anti-Monitor was also very greats :) I know that his dialogue had to still make him out to be a jerk b/c he's being pushed as the biggest heel in the DCU right now, but it'd be nice if he was a little more "heroic" just for that moment b/c as shown in his Sinestro Corps special, he DOES hate the Anti-Monitor and wants to get revenge for the death of Earth-Prime :) And it was nice to see him get his revenge and (to me at least) show a small glimpse of the heroism he used to have before he became crazy >_>
Yay multi coloured lanterns! :D I like that they're all the colours of the rainbow! xD Like Lucky Charms! :D
So now there are purple horseshoes, red balloons, blue moons, orange stars, yellow rainbows as well as green clovers! xDDD
I mean... >.> violet love, red hate, indigo compassion, orange greed, yellow fear and blue hope :D
XDDD Somehow I dun think those will sell as well as a breakfast cereal! xD THOOOOOOO Lucky Lanterns!!! :D Nomnomnom yum yum :D My favourite are the red marshamellows of HATE!
XD
I wanna be a violet or blue Lantern tho! :D I'm all about love and hope :DDDDD YAY HOPE!!! xDDDD I'm very hopeful :) Also I have lots of luff inside. >.>
I know it's the Zamorans, but I hope that there are some male violet lanterns too (hopefully not all effeminate ones either xD) :D Guys can have lots of luff in them too :D
I find the Indigo Lanterns with their staffs rly neat too since they dun wear rings but use the staffs :) I hope that they all get different ways of using their powers outside of rings :) So are the violet Lanterns bad b/c of Star Sapphire or not? :D Since they're the opposite of the red hate ones then they shouldn't be bad? :)
It seems that the red and orange corps still do use rings, but the violet corps uses a jewel on their forehead like Star Sapphire. :o
The Black Lanterns seem scary but neat :D The zombies thing makes sense to me (and I only call them zombies cuz it amuses me to think of zombie lanterns xD They prolly wun just be dumb walking things xD) not b/c it shows the wrong-headedness of allowing Lanterns to kill (they HAD to kill against the Sinestro Corps, to me that was the right choice) but b/c it makes sense that a force that wanted only DEATH of all living things in the universe would employ dead ppl to wear it's rings. :)
ALSO, since combining all the colours together make white light and that all the colours are representative of emotions which as Ganthet said is the power of LIFE, the Black Lanterns representing death make so much sense :)
Plus it means all of the corps will have to work together to fight the Black Lanterns! :D I just wonder how the hate, greed and fear ones (wait.. I dunno why the ppl who wield fear are those who SPREAD fear rather than those who ARE fearful, since the rest of the emotions are used by ppl who ARE those things, like the hate ppl are hateful and the greed ppl are greedy, etc tho I wanna be a Lantern that spreads love then! :D) will work with the compassion, love, hope and willpower ppls. It seems that it'd be hard for them to care about others and therefore work together for a greater good. :\ It's why villains are so notoriously hard to team up with. xD
Poor Robin! Watch black power ring Conner show up! xDDD
I wonder who the "Guardians" behind the Black Corps is tho... :oooo
Sometimes I wonder if all this planning of events way way into the future is Didio's way of ensuring his continued employment no matter what happens. xDD It certainly is clever. >_> At least we know 2009 will be a fun year now :D
Neways, I rly rly enjoyed this issue, and all the fighting and great stuffs and it was just so PACKED with action and development and heroism, it was very very greats :)
Angelwings Rating: 4.5 out of 5 heroic Lanterns!
Recommendation: DEFINITELY BUY!!! >:O
12 angel hugs! :D:
That sounds very cool! Those new types of "lanterns" could be great. As long as it's contained to a single series, i dig that set-up for the future thing. The Black Lanterns are dead people? Weird. Why would all the different corps fight each other, though? What would make the Compassion Corps get mean? Like...We're gonna force you to care about other people! Mmmwwaahahaha!!! Or they could set up giant donation boxes in orbit around wealthy planets...
All light combined makes white, but all colors combined makes black. You know they'll make some weird metaphor out of that.
There's a difference between Lanterns and cops though. Cops don't kill if they don't have to, but they ARE permitted to shoot to kill if the need arises.
Lanterns weren't allowed to do that at all. The ring would stop them. The rule that they can now puts them on the same level as real cops. (We just saw a lot of death right now, because the Sinestro Corps thing was like a really prolonged shoot out if not a war. Non-lethality really wasn't much of an option, as we initially saw).
Of course it's gonna backfire. <3
My point tho Kalinara, is that cops are permitted to kill b/c we don't have a "phaser on stun" device or nething else. :\ We're constantly trying to research new ways to equip police officers so that they don't need to kill (tasers, the new taser shotgun, bean bag guns, etc). Admittedly none of them work like a gun yet, but the GLs have way way way more at their disposal, and are not on a equal playing with their perps like cops are, so there should be very little reason to ever have to kill outside of extenuating circumstances like the Sinestro Corps (which as you said was like a shoot out). :\
But in those cases, they should have been allowed to kill in the first place. I guess my problem is that there seems to be this "omg killing!" thing when rly they shouldn't have to kill again for the most part b/c they never had to before.
It'd be like if there was a huge gang assault on a cop precinct right now and cops had to equip themselves with stronger weaponry and assault rifles and stuff, after the "war", would they still be allowed to carry them in their regular duties?
Altho I get the feeling this isn't gonna happen, everything SHOULD be back to normal where they dun kill (they didn't have to be before and things seemed okay) unless attacked by an unrelenting force that can shred them in an instant (like the Sinestro Corps), otherwise it'd be like cops just shooting an unarmed suspect b/c they're too lazy to catch him. :\
I dun think that killing should be seen as either this awful awful thing, or this amazing thing that should always be used. It's absolutely last minute, cops only use it if they have to, and Lanterns have WAY more at their disposal than cops so their need to use it should be even less. :)
What I was disputing was Sinestro's assertion that their ability to kill allowed them to spread fear. And that's NOT why cops have guns. Cops have guns to protect us and themselves. They should not to intimidate but to protect, and ppl are scared of cops b/c they're afraid of being caught, not b/c cops are roving cowboys who will shoot them for fun.
Capital punishment is the thing that Sinestro is talking about, death to deter crime (in theory neways xD).
I think that the Guardians should operate like our police forces now and investigate every usage of lethal force (outside of when they approve it), since whenever a cop fires a gun they need to report the details and stuff.
There's nothing wrong with killing, but just "kill? y/n" seems a bit simplistic. :|
As I said the real difference is that cops HAVE to be allowed to kill in our reality, now that the Lanterns' reality has changed, they have to be allowed to kill as well but only in those rare situations with like the Sinestro Corps b/c unlike our cops they have way way way more options at their disposal. Right now irl, we're trying to give cops as many non-lethal options so that they dun have to kill as well. :) If we felt they greatly overpowered compared to criminals (as the GLs in theory were) we prolly wouldn't allow them to kill either cuz we'd see no reason for them to. :]
If they KEEP killing it'll def backfire (the Guardians need to make a rule handbook or something not just commandments! xDDD) but the Sinestro War was absolutely justified :]
I wonder, since you know these things way better than I do, how many of the other races in the GLC have cops allowed to use lethal force but must also show restraint (like human cops). The lethal force thing prolly wouldn't be a big deal to John or Hal, as John said, it's just like being a human cop now, but would the other races have the same experience to help guide them when to "shoot" and when not to? Or would a lot of them just use it like "YAY WE CAN KILL NOW, OUR JOB IS EASIER!"?
I think it goes beyond simply making it "yes/no" to kill, as well
1. You've got a lot of younger/rookie Lanterns who don't have the experience with the rings to use non-lethal methods.
2. You've got Lanterns who will want revenge for the several hundred dead friends and comrades
3. The Sinestro Corps wasn't completely defeated, so you've got at least a few of those psychopaths roaming around
4. Most importantly - I think - the mentality of the Guardians and at least some of the Lanterns is more like that of an army as opposed to a police force (at least to some extent), and that the ability to kill once will continue to affect the psychological viewpoint/outlook of both parties.
My guess is that at least one of the new laws will involve the death penalty. Johns was pretty vague in his interview, though, and he said that some of the laws wouldn't make sense at first (hmmm :/)
As for the issue itself - great story, great art, great fun - I think it topped the Sinestro Corps Special, even. I'm eagerly looking forward to what's to come, and I'm hoping Johns can continue to keep this rolling at a high level.
Blech, should have read over my comment before entering it.
Basically, I think that Sinestro doesn't think it's *just* the killing that will lead to people fearing the GL Corps, but rather what that killing (and the new laws) will lead to, especially with the psychological stress of the war, the Guardians seeming to be more scheming than before, and so on. Johns himself said that Sinestro knows more than he's letting on.
Judging from coming events in GL (like the Alpha Lanterns in the next issue), it looks like Sinestro does indeed have more knowledge than simply "Lanterns can kill Sinestro corps, therefore people will fear".
The person behind the Black Lanterns is almost definitely Black Hand. He's a Green Lantern villain, he has zombie-like powers and appearance and his symbol is the same as the one you saw on the Black Lantern rings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hand_%28comics%29
That's what I was saying Captain :) That this wouldn't be as simple as "killing? yes/no?" but that's the way it's being framed by some ppl, that it's either "omg superheroes kill = bad!" or "killing is good! why can't they kill more?"
And I agree with you that Sinestro prolly knows more. :) All I was pointing out was the inherent flaws to the argument being presented at us as is :)
I may be wrong but I think Peter Tomasi said the GLs can kill only going against Sinestro Corps members. I wouldn't worry about lethal force too much. Some Lanterns have shown that they won't kill, ever and others have shown good judgment in using it. After the end of the battle of Mogo and the battle on Earth we saw GLs putting Sinestros into stasis bubbles( for transport to Oa?).
I know they will make an issue of it but I don't remember any Lantern (save Natu) trying to use lethal force before the Guardians allowed it. Even when they and their friend were dieing around them.
Bodikka did and her ring shut off xD
But in general I dun think they SHOULD, I'm just worried they will b/c everybody seems to be making a big deal out of it :( I think that there should be no reason that things aren't back to normal except for the occasional Sinestro Corps skirmish :)
This was definitely a pretty-looking comic, but the whole storyline left me feeling blah. It just turned into a bunch of guys blowing each other's heads off. And it seems like every fight with Sinestro ends up being a fistfight with no power rings.
I'd really like to believe that the Blue Lanterns are from the Wildstorm Universe. I know you all remember the Blue Lantern Corps from the pages of Authority
Why the evil rings got to be "Black"? I'm calling Al Sharpton!
lol
I'm guessing Black Hand will be involved with the Black Lanterns, but the real force behind them, and the one that imprisoned the Anti-Monitor, will be the Empire of Tears.
"After untold millenia, the enemies of the Green Lantern Corps will rise united against them. The Corps shall be destroyed to the last life form. The planet Oa shall be as dust. Amongst the gatheredfoemen shall be numbered the Weaponers of Qward, Ranx the Sentient City, and the unspeakable Children of the White Lobe. The Empire of Tears, finally released from entombment, shall join the assault. Sodam Yat, a Daxamite hailed as the ultimate Green Lantern, will perish battling the Lobe-spawn. The planet-form Green Lantern named Mogo will be last to fall, as Ranx explodes a blink-bomb within his core. And after that, there will be only the demons, dancing in the ruins of Oa to the rhythm of drums bound with taut blue skin."
The prophecy doesn't line up exactly (Mogo and Yat live), but the Empire of Tears were conspicuously absent from the Sinestro Corps war, so they may still be coming...
Also: I'm strangely intrigued by the Orange Lanterns, in part because they don't seem to use any rings -- none of them are shown using ring blasts, for instance. Maybe they drain power from other ring-users? That would make sense for a corps of greed. And their leader is surely someone we know already. Kanjar Ro? Despero?
Indigo Lanterns: Space druids!!!
Red Lanterns: They apparently throw up on their victims. Or breathe fire or something. Awesome.
Blue Lanterns: If Ted Kord comes back to life and doesn't feel like taking the Beetle name away from Jaime, he'd fit in pretty nice with Ganthet and Sayd's corps. I'm just saying.
2009 can't get here soon enough! *bounces excitedly*
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